sittin they sit there in the energy for aircraft flying all around. we e a pretty strong light, and this actually the architect and the guy who presided over the largest conflict in american history, a conflict we have not won. >> to his credit, weave to give general petraeus credit. he is paid a price, nobody comes a general without slipping up to the top. i have extraordinary respect for these folks. lou: you say these folks. no one respects for supports more or military than i do. if you will, i will not indulge the plural. i'm talking about a man who sent the cia downhe gutter. >> will not defend what he did, you can't. lou: why don't we try to get to what is going on. why are we putting up with this kind of nonsense and recognizing there is a culture the military and in washington that we have to get a hold of. >> i think it is a culture all over our society. look at the sports world. virtually no part of our cture in which people don't feel they don't have to be faithful to their congress or their spouse or their families and to their jobs. the